If you are thinking on buying the cardinals watch, I would not do business through Michael Stubbs. He says he doesn't know where he aquired the watch. He bought it in a lot of watches that I sold him on ebay. If you need proof, I can send proof to your e-mail. For your sake do not buy anything from him. The watch he is talking about is a number 5 pujols watch. I know, it was in the same lot. When I saw my old watches make it to listia, I thought that was pretty neat, so I left him a message on that auction. I have proof of where he contacted me through ebay and told me he recieved them as a gift. Funny thing is, I have a different name on ebay. How would he know to send to that email if we had not have done business together through ebay. I explained to listia the situation and how he was a liar but it has not gotten any farther than that.