so these are just adapters? how did i not see that...i dont know...i was on the phone at the same time i was bidding and never scrolled down to see these were adapters not cards....oh well i bid 200 and i dont even need these....these are great items to have but i have to many now....oops....these are great...if anyone does not have one these are wonderful to have...and the name on them is a popular brand...a good brand...thanks anyway...