I just put them up next to the other ones I have up for bid and these are the exact same as the 8. The only difference is they are a little wider at the top because the other ones have elastic at the waist and these have a string. Their measurements are 11" across the waist, but they do have the draw during. They are 15 1/2" from the waist to the bottom of the leg and the inseam is 8". I pray that's a little help and also that you have a blessed day! Thanks for stopping by! ;-)