This listing reminds me of an interesting transaction with another Listian last year... it was for thermal bottoms. They were listed as X-large-Mens, which usually work for me. When they arrived, I found that they were x-large all right.....x-large Boys! I tried them on out of curiousity. That was a good joke on me. Then I gave them to my granddaughter. Two months later we were both laughing as she had grown taller than me (not as wide, naturally).