I order them new BUT I what looks perfect to me...some hard core collectors may say different. I haven't noticed any defects but I do not want to say either way. But they do come to me new and what I can do is when I get home in a 2 days is take a close pic of the original so you can look at it more close :) but these look great especial since they aren't painted kind you don't have the paint peeling problem.No one has complained yet though :)