Dito here Purple Moose......as they are owned together, each is as bad as the other. When there's a breach on eithers part....they dont let there customers know......and guess who is left holding the bag to pay for damages on their own. customer protection is worth nothing! They are both crooks as far as my 15 yrs experience with them showed me. Anyone who goes against the advice of most banks and financial institutes and all those ads on tv, that tell you to never give out your financial info on line......here, ebay, or paypal....they are on line! Guess what....in approximately October or there abouts.....Listia and 9000 of her customers, were comprimised.....did any of you know about it?