I only used the envelope as it was handy to give it a plain background, I had no intention of sending it in the envelope, I may be new to Listia, but I have previously sold other Blu Rays and DVDs already and it is always mailed in a bubble wrap envelope complete with tracking on all thats just big enough for the item and received positive feedback on all my auctions, I do care about the shape in which items I have sold when they arrive to their destination. Thank you for the advice though :)