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The listing, #5 20 Angora Orange Tomato seeds - FUZZY FOLIAGE! has ended.

This tomato, is a mutant (a natural genetic variation) of the red tomato tomato variety, called Angora,

This tomato was my little garden pet this year.

Believe it or not, this vigorous grower, actually survived an accident early in it's life. When I was trying to transplant it as a young seedling, it's stem snapped nearly in half!
Most people would have thought "well, that one is a total loss". But because tomatoes are hard to get going in general, I was going to try & save it, as to not be set back for months. So believe it or not, this worked.

I put the stem back together as close set as possible, & scotch taped around the whole stem, completely covering the injury. I even taped around 2" above, & below the injury. Then put a slit toilet paper roll loosely around the stem to help stabilize it., Then I brought it inside, & put the pot it was in, in a larger pot, to help keep weight off the injury. I left it that way for about a month. Then went to check it. There was a solid callus around the injury! The plant had healed. I gently took the plant out of the other pot, laid it down gently, & very gingerly, cut the scotch tape off the stem. I then went to transplant it again, & dug an extra deep hole, so the injured part would be below ground, & stabilized, so more roots could grow above the injury.

At any rate, this almost fatally wounded plant, was the 1 that did the best for me this year!

I called it "My Woolly Mammoth". It's still out there alive right now, with more fruits on it.

Some fruits maybe so heavy, they may need a sling, to prevent the bending of branches.

The 3-6oz. fruits, have a slight peach fuzz feel to them.

It is indeterminate (4+ ft tall), so will keep growing until a frost kills it.

Because it wants to keep growing, sometimes if about 2 ft. of the vine ends are cut off, & put in water, they may root, & live on indoors, to grow into new plants, while the original plant outside is killed by frost.
Questions & Comments
Original
In a way.

They are true to type, LIKE an heirloom, but a true heirloom, is a historical tomato, like Aunt Lou's Underground Railroad tomato, of which the historical story, is that an escaping slave brought seeds with him, as he fled. He made it to a stop on the Underground Railroad, where a woman named Lou lived. I guess back in that day, they called a woman close to them in a nurturing role "Aunt", which meant a closer, but still respectable bond, than Ma'am, Missus, or Mistress, all terms a slave might have to call a female white person in a humble way. A white lady, allowing a black man to call her "Aunt" removed the "have to be humble" association. It was his first sign, that he was seen as an equal, but was still a respectable title, whereas just calling her Lou, would be to "familier", and improper.

Anyway, she grew the tomato, and saved seed, and grew it and shared it, and so that historical variety is around today.

Heirlooms are other seeds passed from one original person, family, settlement, or a long history in a geographic location.
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Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:56:11 AM PDT by
Original
So these are similar to heirlooms?

Amazing story by the way

F & w
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:45:22 AM PDT by
Original
A mutant, is an automatically gene stable mutation. Some DNA somehow changes, then stays that way, kind of like blue eyes on husky dogs. Blue eyes are generally very unusual for any canines, and believe it or not, some rabbits, and horses can have blue eyes, or one blue, and one brown. A gene changed somehow, and suddenly there's a blue eye, where there usually wouldn't be one. But the changed gene, keeps the blue eye trait forever. That's why blue eyes show up randomly in rabbits, and horses.
However, in husky dogs, the blue eye gene is dominate, so huskies are almost never born with brown eyes.

This tomato is like that. A gene changed the color AND size of the fruit, but kept the gene controlling the fuzzy nature of the green parts of the plant.

So this is basically a different looking twin. The original plant this different one was found among, is called Angora, or Angora Super Sweet, which is a fuzzy plant that produces red cherry sized fruit.

Remember that old movie called Twins. Well this is sort of like that story.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:56:44 AM PDT by
Original
There is a 3rd type of true to type tomato, and that is a selectively bred (to tomatoes deliberately crossed) and then over a span of years generally 5-7 years, the offspring every year is specifically selected for specific traits, and only seeds to that tomato, are kept, then it is grown out, and the next generations offspring is selected for the traits closest to it's parent, and this goes on for 5-7 grow outs, until all of the offspring look like the parent, and rarely do not look different from them. These are called Stabilized Varieties. Jubilee, and Praire Fire, are two such stabilized selectively bred tomatoes, as is Sub Arctic Plenty, and many, many more.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:57:31 AM PDT by
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A hybrid or cross tomato, is an accidental crossing of two DIFFERENT varieties of tomatoes. The offspring will vary. This is like crossing a Poodle with a Labrador, to get a Labradoodle. The labradoodle cannot produce a poodle or Labrador. However, it could have puppies that LOOK like them, such as a black puppy with short hair, and that puppy could be crossed with a Lab and produce more short hair black puppies, BUT poodle genes will always be in the genetic line, and could show up at anytime, so these look a like black short haired puppies, could still never be called a true Black Labrador, but they could be called something else, and be called a purebred dog under a different name. This is how the many different dog breeds came to be. It's called Natural Selection. The genes do whatever they will, and you just keep selecting for the appearance of a wanted trait, and not save seeds too, or propagate all the others you don't want. Miniature horses, are selected this way. Only the smallest horses, with perfect conformation, are allowed to have offspring. Eventually, the wanted genes will appear almost automatically, as in most miniature horses today, are under 3 feet tall. This is when they are considered "stabilized". If a miniature horse is born, that grows over 3 feet, it's usually "culled" and given, or sold away at a reduced price, as "pet quality". It is not expected to have any acceptable offspring within the standards for it's breed. The males are usually "fixed", so the "incorrect" gene can't be passed on. Female may live never around a stallion.

Anyway, that's the story of the 3 types of STABLE tomatoes.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 8:58:17 AM PDT by
Original
Okay so another question. Is this a NON GMO plant?

Also is that why its called an Heirloom(because it was passed down through families and generations?)
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 12:43:18 PM PDT by
Original
Yes, ALL heirloom, mutant, and widely known selectively bred produce, is GMO free.

Almost all GMO varieties will have a trademark, or patented names, like "Starlink", or "Attribute"because they are considered equal to an invention, and thereby personally belonging to their creator/creating company because in fact, they WERE CREATED.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:08:59 PM PDT by
Original
This is different than crossing two EXISTING tomato types, to get a new type, called an F1 or hybrid. However, hybrid produce often has patented names too, like
"knock out rose", or perhaps Early Girl tomato. They CAN patent hybrids under "trade secrets", so they can be claimed and profits go to whichever seed company made the original cross, so that if people want an Early Girl, tomato, they must go to the original company to get it, or contracted sellers. Not all sellers of Early Girl tomato seeds are under contract, like I could go to a Walmart clearence ailse and buy 10 packs of marked down Early Girl seed, but it was Walmart, that was under contract to return some profits to the breeder company.

It's alot like music. Artist records and releases a CD, Walmart or music store sells the CD, but must give the artist "royalties", to sell their efforts. This applies only to the original distrubution point, not resale once purchased new.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:09:45 PM PDT by
Original
GMO stuff, is a CHIMERA, something that cannot be made to naturally happen in nature, naturally.

If one wants to make a NATURAL hybrid, they have to work with COMPATIBLE species, a dog and a wolf, or maybe dog and fox, or other canine. They cannot cross a dog and a cat. Cats, can cross, like a lion and tiger can make a "liger"

HOWEVER, in nature, Lions and tigers lived on different continents, so it was impossible for them to cross without HUMAN INTERFERANCE.

The same is for tomatoes. Sometimes a natural cross can happen, like my red brown tomato, if the plants are within pollen transferring distance. The distance a bee would fly to find different plants to visit, and the bee transfers pollen from one plant, to another, which is accepted by the other plant, to promote growth.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:10:35 PM PDT by
Original
Yes there are stories about mutants, where a mutant is portrayed as a mixed up, ugly thing. The Hulk is an example. However, those type mutants, experienced something that changed their OWN genes, and did not COMBINE/FUSE genes with a completely DIFFERENT creature.

There ARE real "bad" mutants, like frogs that are all boys because of pollution, but that is still a change to THEIR OWN genes.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:11:27 PM PDT by
Original
This GMO "junk", is gene INSERTED/GENE SPLICED DNA on a molecular level, from two DIFFERENT NOT NATURALLY COMPATABLE being's seperate DNA which has been cellularly fused by a HUMAN'S DELIBERATE ACTIONS.

Because the biotech company DELIBERATELY GEENE INSERTS the DNA, CREATING a new bioform, they can claim ownership and patent it, which they do, so they have exclusive rights to it, and no one else can sell it, unless under contract to them, because they want profits from EVERY sale or use of it.

This is just like Avon cosmetics. They make them, the brand and copywrite are theirs, but they allow CONTRACTED "distributers" to go sell it for them, with a slit of the profits,
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:11:58 PM PDT by
Original
This Angora Orange, was FOUND growing in an Angora/Angora Super Sweet patch. The grower expected ALL red cherry fruit. So when he/she saw a big orange fruit on the same fuzzy plant as all the other plants with small red fruit, he/she was puzzled, but let it grow and fruit anyway.

Then they saved some seed and grew this surprize orange tomato, the next year. To their amazement, there was no differences in any of the adult orange fuzzy plants.

This meant that the orange was not a hybrid with variable offspring, but already genetically stable after ONE generation.

This meant it was a NATURAL gene mutation, aka NATURAL genetic anomoly from something different that happen with in the plants OWN genes. It was not caused by any genes or genetic material from a DIFFERENT plant, aka pollen transfer.

So, all mutations, are not bad, or ugly. Mutant", just means genetic change withing somethings OWN DNA.

GMO, means Genetically MODIFIED Organism. Something DELIBERATELY "modified", by HUMANS, at a genetic level, with two DIFFERENT genetic sources, that would NEVER be compatible in nature, even if they lived in close together.

For example, cotton plants inserted with a bug toxin gene, and known as "Bt" cotton.

Or fish, rabbits and potatoes inserted with a cuttlefishes or octopui's phototropic gene, so they glow in the dark.

I hope that clears everything up.

The short answer would have been yes they ARE GMO FREE, but this way, you might be set more at ease.
Oct 2nd, 2015 at 3:13:43 PM PDT by
Original
Wow, woodspritegardens. You just gave me a major lesson on tomatoes. I grow heirlooms myself so this was very informative. Thank you.
Oct 3rd, 2015 at 11:43:07 AM PDT by

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