used loved um knives had mine stolen when I was a chef at Disney World never got over the loss sniff I was injured on the line taken to hospital and someone was low enough to steal my knife kit...baaaad karma NauGhTy and anti-Disneyish behaviour too! Hope they get a lump of fossil fuel for Christmas still! sorry Victorinox knives are very nice because they can be fully sterilized!! No wood handles.!