i dont have a ride to get flat rate boxes i use my own packaging and the mail lady picks up my packages from my house you will be very satisfied with the sockets i promise there brand new i understand shipping is kind of high right now but the sockets are very heavy too but i could drop the shipping a little and ill just pay the difference would that be ok thats the best i can do im unemployed myself right now with a child so i am extremely poor as you would say but good luck and have a nice day