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Basic info on rose seeds.

Why don't we find rose seeds at big garden centers like Lowe's or Home Depot? It's because you never know what sort of rose you'll get from seeds. Most roses we buy at nurseries or exchange have been propagated by budding/grafting onto rootstock or by rooted cuttings.

Be aware; each rose seedling grown from seed is a new, never before seen variety. If you plant seeds of 'Don Juan', you'll get climbers, large bushes, small bushes, a variety of colors, w/ a variety of scents.What you won't get is another 'Don Juan'.

That's true of any variety from which you collect the seed; they don't "come true" to the original type. Among many poor quality seedlings, you might produce some plants that are interesting. But there is no way to know the color, shape, size or habits a rose seed will have until it has germinated, bloomed & been monitored for at least 2 seasons.

Species/wild roses are roses that haven't been cross pollinated by insects or hybridized by breeders. They will come true to type from seed. However, they look VERY different from the modern roses you see sold by florist.

Germinating http://paulbardenroses.com/manners_seed.html

Blue colored, true black colored & rainbow roses are all scams. REGARDLESS, REMEMBER ROSE SEEDS IN GENERAL CAN BE A PROBLEM. Take the word of a master, Steve Jones Master Consulting Rosarian http://scvrs.homestead.com/TypesOfRoses.html
...the blooms come in most colors, except blue & black.

faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/roses/1998063836018263.html

Scroll down to seed scams; http://gardeningwithstephanie.com/category/roses/
faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/roses/1998064213019692.html
forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/roses/msg081153098702.html
Rainbow roses are created by dying white roses.
rainbowrosecompany.com/about-rainbow-roses/
Pay it forward! Warn your friends!

This auction is NOT for rose seeds.
This auction is for 15+ Roselle (Hibiscus sabdariffa) seeds. 3rd image.
Questions & Comments
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He only says that the Hybrid Tea Roses don't come in blue and black. My grandmother has roses that turned out blue tinted. Not bright blue like in the picture, but they were supposed to be lavender. She got two bushes at a local nursery that were both supposed to be lavender. When they started blooming the roses on one of the bushes had a blue tint to them. The others were lavender without the blue tint. We were amazed when they turned out this color because we had always heard that the blue roses didn't exist. They have come back blue tinted on that same bush two years in a row and we're waiting to see if they come back the same this year. I'm pretty sure it isn't anything in the ground or anything because they are planted next to each other and she had never even heard of dying the roots when I asked her if she did.
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Feb 2nd, 2013 at 9:39:36 AM PST by
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I'll believe what the experts say, not a random person on Listia or ebay, etc.

Are there any blue roses?

No true blue rose exist yet. Some roses are sold as blue but are really a lavender color. Most of these lavender roses are difficult to grow and are quite susceptable to disease.

There is no true blue gene in the rose.
Roses FAQ Page
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Feb 2nd, 2013 at 9:50:20 AM PST by
Original
I grew blue roses!
Feb 2nd, 2013 at 9:17:25 AM PST by
Original
I don't believe that for a second.
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Feb 2nd, 2013 at 9:46:59 AM PST by
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http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/2909/#b


Growing Roselle

Plant roselle in a full sun location. Start from seeds planted where they are to grow in Zones 8-11. In colder areas, start seeds indoors and transplant outside after the danger of frost is past. Place transplants at least three feet apart, or thin seedlings to that distance so that plants have plenty of room to grow. New plants are also easily started from cuttings.

Roselle is not particular about soil pH, but it requires a permeable soil. Sandy soil amended with humus is preferred; however, it adapts to a variety of soils. It appreciates frequent watering and is even tolerant of floods and stagnant water. Plant them anywhere an attractive shrub is needed during the summer. Scatter them in a mixed border, or plant in rows to make a dense hedge by midsummer. They also perform well in large containers.

Since it is susceptible to root knot nematodes, roselle should not be planted in the same place every year. A good mulch will help to control the nematode population, conserve water and inhibit weeds.

Harvesting Roselle

Begin harvesting the tender calyces about 10 days after the flowers bloom. Pick regularly to keep the plants blooming and producing. Remove the calyces from the seed pods. Most recipes call for 2 quarts of calyces and one quart of water. After boiling and simmering for about 10 minutes, the juice can be strained and used for a variety of recipes. It can be sweetened to make a flavorful drink, or jelly or wine if you prefer. The remaining pulp makes a delicious jam or pie filling.

Not only are parts of the plant edible and used in many foods, but they have also been used extensively for medicinal purposes. Its usefulness as an intestinal antiseptic has been touted, as well as its effectiveness in treating arteriosclerosis and other ailments.
Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:03:10 AM PST by
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On seeds in general.
Beware of seeds saved from F1 Hybrids; http://www.growveg.com/growguides/saving-seed.aspx

Make sure you only save seed from open-pollinated varieties and not F1 hybrids. Open pollinated vegetable varieties are often heirloom varieties that have naturally evolved over the years and been passed down through generations of gardeners. The vegetables produced from the seeds are similar to the produce of the parent plant and gradually evolve to cope with local conditions such as moisture levels and high or low temperatures.

Saving seed from F1 hybrids will not produce seeds that ‘come true’ when they produce vegetables. F1 seeds can be infertile and some will produce different traits from the original parents that are less favorable to the ones for which the hybrids were initially developed.

Lots of ppl are offering seeds collected from their own gardens. Be aware that if they are collecting seeds from their F1 hybrid plant and you buy those seeds, you will NOT likely get the same plant they are offering.
Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:05:13 AM PST by
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Webinar: Heirlooms, OPs, and F1s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMEmkecSHs
Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:05:45 AM PST by
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It's highly unlikely the rose seeds I see up for auction will germinate at all. Most ppl who buy these things are new gardeners or are buying for someone else. When the seeds fail to germinate, the newbie just figures they did something wrong and don't really question the viability of the seeds.
Jan 23rd, 2013 at 10:06:43 AM PST by
Original
I'm new at this so how hard will it be to grow these seeds your offering
Jan 31st, 2013 at 4:55:56 PM PST by
Original
Hi Holly. When I first started to grow Roselle, I bought seeds from an heirloom seed website. I had horrible germination results. IDK if the seeds were old, or if I planted too soon or if my sandy soil was infertile, but I did get 1 plant to grow and produce. It probably grew to about 5' x 5' and we harvested many calyxes for tea. The 1 shrub was plenty for us!

I've gotten better results from the seeds I harvested from my plant than I did from the first seeds I bought. This is my first year saving seed. And some ppl I've talked to about growing Roselle have had super results starting it from seed. I'd like to have a hedge of them, so I hope I get better at germinating the seeds.

Thanks for your question.
Feb 1st, 2013 at 9:31:02 AM PST by
Original
I've fell victim to rose seeds
Jan 31st, 2013 at 4:58:14 PM PST by
Original
Really? What happened?
Feb 1st, 2013 at 9:31:14 AM PST by
Original
Hey, these folks grew blue roses. Please reveal your real names. You must be famous!

BTW, modern roses ARE hybrids omlaha85.
Feb 2nd, 2013 at 9:56:56 AM PST by

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